What if one of the component pieces of an update rollup crashes some systems? What if one of the components includes suspected 'snooping' or 'Win10 update' components that some Win 7 or 8.1 customers don't want? At this point, we don't know. [and you never will ] What concerns me most about KB 3125574 is that we don't have a definitive list of which KB patches are included in the uber-patch [so why is that?? What are they hiding??] thing is as well as that you cant uninstall individual updates with in the whole roll up all you can uninstall is the whole roll up and then you back to square one? Just not worth it just on microsofts sneaky windows 10 strong arming. I'l,l wait a week on one at a time and weed them out as I go.

Decline and hide good luck 'As I have stated already have stated already there is none of the win 10 update stuff in that roll-up' show me where you see this?? Sure it not under your radar?? I'm not falling for it if there not showing you all the files involved you don't know jack and then who are you??

We all know its about tricking you in to the 10 worms I guess to each his own. OK.let's rein this in a little bit, and cut the sniping. LonelyMan - Are you still having issues?

It's been almost a week. No, I fixed it.

Thank you for the help. But I have another question somewhat related to this. What steps should I take before updating to windows 10? I will downgrade after, just doing it to get the key. There is no 'key'. It is a digital entitlement.

A hash of your Win 7 license and your motherboard info. You are in uncharted territory, wanting to upgrade your Win 7 to Win 10 now, reverting back to Win 7, and maybe changing to Win 10 in the future. This is new stuff.a new method of licensing and Upgrading from MS. How far into the future will you be able to go to Win 10 again on that same hardware? 2 years form now? Completely unknown.

May 03, 2017 How to download a Windows update manually. Windows Update can help you download updates. Select the Security Update for Windows Vista.

I don't know, you don't know.no one outside of MS actually knows. And the MS drone you might get on the phone doesn't even know. As for your question of what to do before Upgrading? Run all the current updates.

Create a good image of the current C drive or partition, using whatever software you want. Do the Upgrade to 10. See what happens.

^ I would assume that upgrading then downgrading would be entirely pointless, as USAFRet says there is no actual key unless you buy windows 10 in retail format as a freh install. I would have assumed that downgrading again removes your system into from the servers & if you're not actually running win 10 on the deadline date your free upgrade option will be no more. These are my personsl assumptions only but seem the most logical to me.

By all accounts upgrade if you want to try win 10 out & revert back if you really really don't like it but don't do it for the reasons youve stated. Junkeymonkeys opinions on win 10 & Microsoft are becoming fairly legendary on these forums & while there is a tiny hint of truth in what he says he's absolutely overboard on most if his opinions. Apple iOS & Google android OS are far far more guilty (& far more intrusive) of collecting anylitical data & have been for years.

This is the 21st century, if you want to be 'off the grid' as it were go & buy a cabin in the woods with no technology & live off the land;-). I have actually seen it suggested on other sites to upgrade and then downgrade to 'reserve' your win 10 copy before the free update ends. So i tried it just to see what would happen (on a pc i was upgrading to win 10 anyway). I upgraded, then did a fresh win 7 install to remove all traces of win 10 to see if it would activate and it did.

For about a week. Then i got the message saying my key was not valid and to enter a valid one. Took a bit but eventually it caught up to the server checks and was rejected. So first test down and failed. Then i did another fresh install back to win 10 to see if it remembered it was activated before. It did remember and activated for me with no issue.

Been about a month now on that install and still activated with no problem. MS said you'd get 30 days to revert back but clearly they decided to go back on that promise to fool more people into upgrading. If you want to upgrade, then do it and stop worrying about going back to win 7. There is no need. Win 10 is a pretty good os once you figure out the subtleties like every other version of windows. If you want both, then you'll need a new key for one or the other to do it like MS intends to happen.

If you want win 7 then keep it and stop worrying about win 10. Buy it later if you decide you want it.

There really is no other option right now. You get one or the other unless you buy both. The reason I think I will downgrade back to windows 7 is because Asus did not release any windows 10 compatible drivers for my maximus v formula mobo, and my computer is from summer 2012. There are a couple of things that I want to do on my windows 7 before upgrading for good, so that's why I want to upgrade and then revert back. Plus, compatibility with my mobo is non existent.

I could always do the upgrade on July 20 or close to the end date, wait for August 1, and then revert back to windows 7. And I have a couple of torrented games from when I first bought my computer and before I found steam and steam sales, and I don't want to be flagged on their servers when I update to windows 10. I read somewhere that windows 10 knows if you run torrented files and will flag you. I want to avoid that, so I'm going to do a clean install of windows 7 before upgrading. Current Win 7, to Win 10, then back to Win 7.then back to Win 10 (retaining the free bit) at some random point in the future is a completely unknown quantity. 'I think it will work' is unknown, because no one has (obviously) ever done it. Will your system rollback to Win 7?

Sure, probably. Will you be able to retain that Win 10?

Completely unknown. This method of a free upgrade for a specified period of time is all new for MS. You won't know it 'works' until after this free period expires.

But.Win 7 or Win 10. Just do it.one or the other. Extended support for 7 does not run out into summer 2020. Win 10 is good, but it is not THAT great a deal to worry about going back and forth, etc. And Win 10 on old hardware? My 2009 era low end Toshiba laptop works just fine with Win 10.

It was slow with Win 7, slow with 8 and 8.1, and no slower now with Win 10. Obviously, Toshiba has not released and Win 10 specific drivers for it.

But it works. Exactly, i have win 10 on a number of older systems and no problems with drivers. Only thing i can't get driver side is a igp driver for the older atom cpu's. Still can't figure out how to get the win 7 driver working on 10 so it is stuck on generic driver. But that is literally the only driver i have failed to get on any of the systems i have put win 10 on. A good 6 in my house and a solid 30+ for clients. Across all ages of systems.

Don't give it another worry and just move to win 10. It's a solid OS and has a lot of features worth the upgrade. Yes anti-beacon to block telelmetry and GWX control panel to block win 10 update stuff. Wait, if I want to upgrade to windows 10, why do I need the GWX control panel program? I know you can upgrade to windows 10 using windows update, or do an ISO or USB bootable. So if I want to do it using windows update, I'd need the GWX update on my windows 7 no?

And once I upgrade to windows 10, I'll play around with it for a few days and if there are no problems, I can do a clean install of windows 10 afterwards and install anti-beacon on the fresh install to block telemetry and change some settings for privacy and automatic updates. Yes anti-beacon to block telelmetry and GWX control panel to block win 10 update stuff.

Wait, if I want to upgrade to windows 10, why do I need the GWX control panel program? I know you can upgrade to windows 10 using windows update, or do an ISO or USB bootable. So if I want to do it using windows update, I'd need the GWX update on my windows 7 no?

And once I upgrade to windows 10, I'll play around with it for a few days and if there are no problems, I can do a clean install of windows 10 afterwards and install anti-beacon on the fresh install to block telemetry and change some settings for privacy and automatic updates. Did not realize you are trying to get win 10 and not just update win 7. As matt says, simply use the creation tool to get the iso and run it from win 7 and it will update no problem. You only need sp1 installed and nothing else. This thread could have been a ton shorter and much easier to answer if it was clear you were trying to install win 10. No need to turn of auto update. You won't get to pick and chose anyway.

And you can set it t not do any reboots until certain times. Never had mine reboot on me when i did not know it was gonna do it. There have been situations where certain updates would cause problems for a lot of people. That and knowing what gets installed on my computer is why I want to turn automatic updates off. Are there any guides out there that teach you how to customize windows 10?

Security options, how to set up ssd, what settings to use for computer, etc. What i am trying to tell you is that there are very few single updates. They are all package deals that come when MS feels like it. You don't get to sift through a bunch and chose what you want.

You get them all at one time. And you do not get to turn any down. There is a place to block an update for a while but it will eventually install the next version of it when it is available. I have been using win 10 now for a very long time and rarely see an update that causes issues. There have been a couple but they were mostly beta build which the public never sees. Lots of misinformation and scaremongering going on with win 10 and most of it is just flat out wrong. You're gonna drive yourself nuts trying to control win 10 like you can the older os's.

I am an old pro at customizing windows and tweaking it to my liking and am having trouble getting a lot of stuff to let me do what i want. You can find a couple basic tweaks right now but anything major is still a ways away since people are still trying to figure out how to get windows to behave and submit to tweaking. What i am trying to tell you is that there are very few single updates. They are all package deals that come when MS feels like it.

You don't get to sift through a bunch and chose what you want. You get them all at one time. And you do not get to turn any down. There is a place to block an update for a while but it will eventually install the next version of it when it is available. I have been using win 10 now for a very long time and rarely see an update that causes issues. There have been a couple but they were mostly beta build which the public never sees.

Lots of misinformation and scaremongering going on with win 10 and most of it is just flat out wrong. You're gonna drive yourself nuts trying to control win 10 like you can the older os's. I am an old pro at customizing windows and tweaking it to my liking and am having trouble getting a lot of stuff to let me do what i want. You can find a couple basic tweaks right now but anything major is still a ways away since people are still trying to figure out how to get windows to behave and submit to tweaking. Haha, quality comedy right there. So, download all updates, even the ones that are optional, the ones that are spyware and the ones that have nothing to do with windows, like internet explorer and whatnot? The problem is caused by a bug in windows update service causing windows update to check for updates indefinitely and not downloading any updates and slowing pc in the meantime the windows update causes the svchost.exe to use all the ram and cpu making it slow.

You have to fix it manually, use this guide: Also you can download all updates till April in one package saving you from multiple restarts and effort.See this: prefer mark as answer or upvote as this article is flled with many off the topic things.

How often do you install a clean version of a Windows operating system either for yourself or somebody else? Although a lot of users are sensible and make of their system using either or something like the, there is sometimes no option but to reinstall because it can’t be avoided. Hardware failures, viruses, or even computers with poor performing or highly abused operating systems are all reasons to have to wipe the old system and start again. Some users even install their operating system regularly to keep it clean and running at maximum performance. Whether you’re installing a new Windows by choice or by necessity, you will soon be pretty sick of wasting hours downloading all the hotfixes from Windows Update and continuously downloading patch after patch. Having just installed Windows 7 to see how many updates are available for the most popular version of Windows, it’s quite shocking to see it has 117 important updates ready to be downloaded!

And that obviously doesn’t include recommended updates like the multitude of newer and subsequent updates after you install software like Internet Explorer 9 or 10 etc. One solution is to use a to integrate hotfixes into the install disc, but even these become outdated every month after the latest round of hotfixes. If waiting for all the updates to install doesn’t appeal, an alternative is to have a program store and automatically install the updates for you from a USB stick or external hard drive.

While it isn’t as quick as a slipstreamed disc, this method is an awful lot quicker than waiting for everything to be downloaded and installed from the internet, and can be left to it while you go and do something else. Here are 4 applications that can do exactly that, you can even run them on a currently installed Windows to bring it up to date. AutoPatcher AutoPatcher has been around for several years and used to be distributed as a huge executable file that included all the update patches inside.

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You don’t need a clean install either, even the latest up to date Windows can still install any other add ons or extras that aren’t currently installed. This is an essential tool to save serious amounts of time and effort.

WSUS Offline Update Formally called c’t Update, WSUS Offline Update is another tool that can update a number of Windows operating systems to the latest patches, and also keep nearly all versions of Microsoft Office up to date too. Although like Autopatcher in a lot of ways, there’s also some differences.

WSUS Offline Update can update any Windows revision and doesn’t rely on it having the latest Service Pack installed. This can be a great help as lots of computers still don’t have XP Service Pack 3 or Vista Service Pack 2 installed which makes Autopatcher unusable until they’re updated. It can also download and install updates for several different languages so you’re not restricted to just English. After downloading, extracting and running the UpdateGenerator.exe, tick the boxes to select the operating system versions, Office versions and languages you require.

Everything is split over 3 tabs called Windows, Office and Legacy products which includes Windows XP and Office 2003 as support for them ends in 2014. Some of the Options are very useful such as whether to download Service Packs, and whether to include Microsoft Security Essentials or Defender definitions in the package. The inclusion of C++ Runtimes and.NET Frameworks is also optional but leaving them included will be a BIG time saver.

Something else WSUS Offline Update can do is write the update package to an. Great for older systems or if you don’t have the right sized USB flash drive handy. Alternatively choose the USB medium option to copy the updates onto a USB flash or hard drive. Once you press Start, a Command Prompt window will open and begin downloading the files from Microsoft, the wait could be long if you’ve selected multiple options. Once completed, you can then take the disc or drive to another computer and run UpdateInstaller.exe to popup the installer window. Some options such as Internet Explorer versions,.NET Frameworks, PowerShell and Media Player will be greyed out depending on whether you have the option already installed or if operating system supports it.

The “Automatic reboot and recall” option is a potential big time saver if you want the updates to be installed unattended. Be aware that the option temporarily disables UAC and also creates a temporary new user account called WSUSAdmin while updating. It will be deleted again after updating has completed. Hey guys, would love some help! First off, thank you for helping us. Free Download Mp3 Lagu Minang Takicuah Di Nan Tarang. The internet is dope because people like you spread this info, but it’s shit because we have to protect ourselves fromthem.

Problem: Every update I have installed since the first installment of Windows 10 has caused a decrease in performance–my CPU and GPU run muchMUCHhotter. Overclocking becomes a major issue. I smell the heat from inside my PC.

Seems like you can’t manage your OS, Microsoft! I am not the only one with these problems Anyway My want: I want to use my PC ONLY for gaming–that I the only thing I want it to connect to the web for. I will learn how to set up really strict firewalls only allowing for game connections. I’ll use it for offline things, too, like essays. I would also like to use OneDrive. And email, though that’s not a necessity because I have a laptop I can use for that.

I am about to check out WUMT. **But my first question is: 1) if I only connect to some multiplayer games, email using the Mail app, and OneDrive, do I even need to update for security purposes? Oh, I will also have an antivirus–Webroot, because Windows’ AV hogs up my resources. 2) If I DO need some things updated for security, even if I am blocking as much as I can incoming and outgoing, what parts of the update will these be, and will certain selected updates eventually cause compatibility issues because I am just installing updates in parts? I really, really just want to game on this thing. Your help would be a critical help– thanks! Updates obviously patch bugs and holes in the operating system itself, so from that point of view, you need to stay up to date if you are going online in any capacity.

Mail and OneDrive apps should have their own updates. Microsoft are forever changing things in Windows 10 which means it’s constantly throwing up new bugs, incompatibilities, security issues, and other problems.

They also group updates together so there could be some things you need for security and some crap you don’t want in the same update, but have to install the update anyway. The best thing you can do is to set up strict security policies, run a telemetry blocker like ShutUp10, and backup your system before an update so you can revert if it causes problems. Ok I have an extremely frustrating problem I’ve tried, possibly, every single work around and 3rd party program for updating windows and it always fails the same way.

The installation of the updates themselves simply won’t happen. At first I was stuck with windows update saying “checking for updates” indefinitely. Then I tried several different methods of downloading some key updates manually from windows all of the methods turn out the same result =>The “Microsoft update standalone package” file (.msu file) for every update chosen can be downloaded. The real issue is that when i attempt to install one of them, it says “checking for updates” indefinitely. I just tried WSUS with the installer, hoping that since it has its own installer it would be able to perform the installation.

But it appears to be failing to install in the exact same way. I’ve been running it for a couple hours and its just sitting at the last cmd line with: “Installing.623-x64.msu” (the first update). Looks its just using the windows installer on a loop. TLDR: I can download any update I want from Microsoft manually or with any of these programs without an issue. I can’t INSTALL any of them. Are there any other third party programs that don’t use the windows installer api and have a standalone installation program?

Like some kind of manual registry patcher or something? At David, Put any [.msu] files in a folder in “C” root along with the batch file below in the same folder, make sure Windows Update in services is running on Automatic and started, then double-click on the batch file and monitor progress on the prompt screen that opens. When through immediately reboot and wait for Auto Update to do it’s thing before Windows starts. It’s still faster that strictly using Auto Update in services. You must save the batch file as a [.reg] file and not a text [.txt] file. If you look online you can find the same batch installer file as below. I’ve installed 120 or so [.msu] files at once.

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I am retired and cant afford to update/upgrade. I have noticed on one machine, Windows has grown to twice its installed size (not counting programs) due to the unbounded updates of Microsoft. I occasionally have to reload windows from scratch to speed them up and in doing so, I notice many of the updates are useless (languages I dont speak, updates to IE or Media Player which I dont use, etc).

Is there any compilation of truly necessary updates? I understand that is pretty nebulous as each user has his preferences, but there are groups of updates that could help and many are obscure fixes I will never need. On a side note, can these programs download individual patches instead of SP1, etc.

It is the same problem, gigantic service packs full of crap. Decrapafier, where are you. I mostly use XP and W7 but XP is being abandoned like the plague. I have to move to Win 7 and collect the needed patches before they disappear and these programs seem to be the answer. Sadly it’s like you say, a list like that will be very user specific. The problem with something like IE is it’s very tightly woven into the operating system itself and other software might well use IE files without you even knowing.

As a result, even though you think you won’t need updates for it, you actually will to stay secure. What If Serious Scientific Answers To Absurd Hypothetical Questions Pdf Free Download there. These tools all download individual post SP1 patches direct from Microsoft, so if you really wanted to, you could sort through them all manually and install what you want. Portable Update has just saved my life.

Windows 10 was having way too many issues and broken updates. So I downgraded to windows 8 (fresh install).

But the darn thing wouldn’t update at all! Windows Update was broken! Came across this site in my search for WU fixes and decided to try Portable Update. It has downloaded, installed, and configured every update I needed. So done with WU right now, but I was so satisfied with PortUp that I decided to come back and let anyone else having problems with updating that Portable Update might just be the answer. It was for me, anyway. I had a similar idea, to install a WSUS Server so that I could continue to service XP Machines after April 8th.

I installed Server 2008r2 but is seems the Key I was given in Tech College is no longer good. I downloaded WSUS-Offline but noticed that this no longer downloads Windows 2000 updates, (or earlier). I tried downloading an earlier version of WSUS-Offline but the Windows 2000 updates are not available even for the earlier versions of this product.

Exactly how do I get the XP computers I work on to update from my USB? (the files saved by WSUS-Offline) Larry.